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POSTED 07/18/2008 AT 9:48 AM ET

By Sean Chavel in Los Angeles

With "The Dark Knight," Christian Bale fits better into his Batsuit the second time around then he did the first time. That’s not to say anything in regard to the quality of his performances (he’s always good). But the actor comments that the costuming was much more comfortable this time around. More tractable and mobile, the new Batsuit gave Bale more versatility in the fight scenes. In this interview, Bale also discusses the parallels of Batman and the Joker, acting opposite the late Heath Ledger, and the joys of returning to the Bruce Wayne/Batman character.

His Batman character is becoming a career highlight for the ever-talented actor. This is high praise considering that Bale has done superb work in everything from “Empire of the Sun” at age 15, “American Psycho,” “The Machinist” and “Rescue Dawn.” Bale was recently available at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel in Los Angeles to conduct roundtable interviews.

Q: So, how was it literally stepping back into the Batsuit?

CHRISTIAN: Literally stepping back into it was much more comfortably than the first time. It’s much more advanced suit than the original one. There had been some requests from myself and from Chris [Nolan] to be more maneuverable. At first I was fighting against the suit to do all of the fight sequences, this one was actually compatible with the Keysi fighting method. I could move my head.

It was heavier than the original, but just so much more motion. I could breathe properly inside of it, it didn’t squeeze my head like a vice throughout. So I had to act the rage and anger this time around. I think in keeping with the evolution of the story, it’s natural the Batsuit should evolve and I think in keeping with this movie appearing more realistic in the backdrop, the city, etcetera that it’s closer in appearance of the military, the future soldiers’ combat gear.

Q: Then the other side of it, not so literally, how was it returning to the character?

CHRISTIAN: Very easy, you know it’s the first time that I’ve done that, third time I’ve worked with Chris Nolan and the crew and cast members so we know each other well. Chris was not just treading water, you know he was not going to make the movie unless it was going to be better than the first one and given more to do for each of the characters. Really, far less pressure than I felt with the first one.

Q: Batman has helped establish you as a movie star. When you first started with Spielberg in "Empire of the Sun" and a lot of child movie stars have disappeared, at what point did you think that this is the career that you wanted after Empire of the Sun? Was there a point you thought, “No, I want to go off and do something else, I don’t really want to be an actor”?

CHRISTIAN: Yeah, many times I would often have times I was unsure this was what I wanted to do forever. Even the notion of forever was completely alien to me, but I did always like the opportunities it afforded even if I lost enjoyment now and then with the actual acting or the movies I was making. I like the most basic things, in this movie I got to go stand on the lip of the Sears Tower, you don’t get to do those kinds of things. I get to go research and be able to go around FBI headquarters and have people let me into departments I would never get access to. These fascinating things which I recognize I would never get if it wasn’t for acting. That being said, probably I wouldn’t be here today if I hadn’t started with Empire of the Sun, but it’s a less than ideal and I wouldn’t recommend anybody starting at a young age doing this professionally. I would definitely try and convince anyone in my family and near to me not to do so at such a young age.

Q: There’s a point in the movie where The Joker says to Batman, “You complete me.” Is that true with actors, that we find that great partner to work against that it becomes a great performance because of both parties?

CHRISTIAN: Yeah, very true, and with directors as well. It all comes down to the director really, because he’s responsible for the casting, so even if you get an actor doing a wonderful job – well, the director cast that actor in it. I give full credit, always, to the directors and absolute blame to the director as well if the movie is a failure. It’s something I believe is absolutely true and a reasonable thing to consider.

I love that dynamic between The Joker and Batman, he completes him in a sense that he finally has a really worthy challenge, a worthy opponent, that challenges him in a way that nobody else ever has.

Yeah, with other actors, but I found that [connection] with Heath. His immersion into the character makes it incredibly easy to work opposite and up everybody’s game.

Q: How would you describe your dynamic with Heath?

CHRISTIAN: I felt a real enjoyment. I was almost kind of chuckling inside and I didn’t want to let it show when we were doing our first scene, which was in the interrogation room and I saw what he was going to do with it, and I felt I recognized the satisfaction he seemed to be getting in the pleasure from the role to be similar to the satisfaction that I get from acting as well. I felt very comfortable working with him.

Q: Did you bond? I know you have spoken about that a little bit…

CHRISTIAN: I think a few things have been taken out of context with what I was talking about, but look, the guy was wonderful company and when he took off The Joker stuff he was Heath again. He was wonderful company.

Q: When you look at a film you may see flaws and things you could do better, did you watch "Batman Begins" and think about that when you started "The Dark Knight" and think maybe you could have a chance to do something better with either Bruce Wayne or Batman?

CHRISTIAN: Not so much any corrections, just evolution, but also remember the first time people were having faith in Chris’s idea and what he had spoken about what he was able to do, but he had to prove himself. After "Batman Begins", he didn’t have to describe, he didn’t have to convince people, they could see what he meant. So, it was my impression he was given much more freedom with "The Dark Knight" to make exactly the movie he wished to.

Q: How much time did you spend in harnesses?

CHRISTIAN: I do all of the fight sequences myself, although I do have a fantastic stunt double who is a great mixed-martial artist, but it wasn’t necessary. I was very much familiar with the Keysi, so I could do all of that myself. I mention the Sears Tower, I don’t consider that a stunt, but it was more of an experience that I wanted to have. The Hong Kong stuff, any of the things where he is flying into a concrete pillar at 30 miles per hour, if he jumped off a five story building onto a car – hey look, I hand that over to Buster [Reeves]. That’s what he does well and I am happy for him to do that.

Q: So there was training with Keysi martial arts?

CHRISTIAN: Yeah, I had done for the seven months we did the first movie, so we picked it up and resumed it for this one.

Q: Are you keeping up with that now?

CHRISTIAN: No, I haven’t kept it up, but it’s a very instinctive kind of martial art. It’s not about choreography, these katras and things, it’s very much about using your adrenaline and your animal instincts. We tone it down very much for Batman or otherwise you would have people’s cheeks getting ripped off, noses getting removed and things like that. It’s all about, kind of, becoming an animal in your fighting style rather than becoming somebody who is very centered and calm.

Q: Could you talk a little about working with Maggie?

CHRISTIAN: Maggie did a great job because she was obviously stepping into the Rachel character played by Katie Holmes in the first one. There can be a lot of pressure in doing that but I found she did a wonderful job, it didn’t jolt me at all, out of the movie, to see this is a different actress playing the character now. She made it her own and I thought she did terrific.

Q: How about Aaron since he had to play a character that became more of a villain by the end?

CHRISTIAN: He is this rival in terms of Rachel, unknowingly to Harvey Dent, to Bruce because of that, but at the same time, probably more importantly, somebody Bruce sees as the answer to be able to make Batman obsolete and to be able to put this Batman creature to rest and get on with his own life and stop sacrificing that. Like he says, if there can be a hero with a face the Batman is not needed any longer. Aaron did a wonderful job with that.

He has such a distinctive chin, I looked at him often and wondered if he would look better inside of my get up, but it would probably be a giveaway for Bruce Wayne with that dimple.

Q: Did you do any of the driving at all or was that all doubles?

CHRISTIAN: On the Batmobile, this one no, completely George Cottle. He’s a wonderful driver. I mean, I did drive it, but I didn’t drive it on film I would just race up and down. There’s a Lamborghini in there, you know, oh I had to go practice on that for many hours. I would have to learn how to do the 180s on that, it was really essential. The motorbike as well, I spent days just roaring up and down, all I had to do was pull up and get off it. I insisted it was absolutely necessary for my preparation.

So yes, I did drive it, but on camera it’s pretty much all George. Because, when you see it jumping the other cars. I could really drive it jumping those other cars. I am quite happy to admit I am not up to that skill level.

The Batpod, that was an embarrassing challenge. I have to admit that there’s not a single moment in the movie I am in control of that thing. There was only one man, Jean-Pierre Goy, world class biker, who was able to control that and not fall off.

Q: Was it because of the wheels?

CHRISTIAN: It’s essentially because they’re huge, the wheels from the Tumbler. I ride motorbikes, but there were world class bikers who were getting on this thing and coming straight off of it. I had to recognize at that point I wasn’t going to manage it either. So whenever you see me on it, it’s still an adrenaline rush, but I am getting dragged behind another vehicle. It’s embarrassing to admit, but I have to give kudos to Jean-Pierre for being the only person in the world who was able to master it. He said so himself, it’s not a motorbike, you have to actually ignore all of the skills you have learned as a biker in order to learn how to operate the Batpod.

Q: So, would you want to do this again?

CHRISTIAN: That’s up to Chris Nolan, the answer is up to him.

Q: Do you have a three film contract?

CHRISTIAN: Yes, however, I just can’t imagine doing this without Chris. He’s created this completely so I hope that choice will be his.

Q: Then there’s another pretty iconic role you are stepping into as John Connor in "Terminator Salvation." What kind of research did you do for that?

CHRISTIAN: In a similar fashion to what Chris did with "Batman Begins", in the reinvention. With "Terminator" - clearly it's not an origin story - as with "Batman Begins" we were saying this is the first story, we're ignoring the others. Terminator, no, you have to recognize the mythology that's already there. But, it's our responsibility as the filmmakers and there is no point in making it if we're not going to evolve it, revitalize it and reinvent it. It needs that, it has to happen, otherwise it won't be successful from a creative point of view.

Q: Are you still attached to "Killing Pablo" and if so what is the status of that film?

CHRISTIAN: I hope we get it made and work with Joe Carnahan. I’ve never been “attached,” I’m attached in the fact that I want to work with Joe, he’s a fantastic writer, he’s written a wonderful script. It’s about finding the time and all of the various preparations and circumstances that go into actually managing to get something made.

Q: Then you made "Public Enemies"…

CHRISTIAN: Yeah, it’s coming out next year, it’s coming out in July.

""The Dark Knight"" opens July 18th.




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