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INTERVIEW: Christopher Walken on "Around the Bend"
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10/05/04 AT 9:00 A.M.
BY ETHAN AAMES
By Jenny Halper in New York Christopher Walken was not scary. Having been terrified by his Max Shreck at
the age of nine, I was a little nervous about meeting the actor known for strange,
dark films and even darker roles. But the second Walken sat down, grinned wryly,
and asked for two tea bags and no water (an assistant nonetheless steeped tea),
I relaxed. Prone to amusing pauses, Walken has a subtle, off-kilter sense of humor- a
trait he shares with his “Around the Bend” character, Turner Lair.
As Turner, a musician and ex-convict, Walken makes a “normal” man
with “normal” troubles especially magnetic. Embarking on a road
trip with his estranged son Jason (Josh Lucas) and grandson Zach (Jonah Bobo),
Turner consumes excessive Kentucky Fried Chicken in memory of his late father,
briefly played by Michael Caine. Towards the movies’ end, when Turner
shares a dark past secret with his son, Walken’s vast emotional range
is revealed. It’s an incredible performance, and I’d be surprised
if he didn’t get an Oscar nomination. Promoting “Around the Bend,” Walken seemed more than happy to discuss
both his latest film and his lengthy career. He was also willing to indulge
silly questions. Asked what superhero power he’d most like to possess,
he smiled mischievously, took a customary Walken pause, and said: “I’d
have the X-Ray vision. So I could see through things. Walls.” Here’s what else he had to say: Q: Edward Albee did a play on Louise Nevelson where he asked: “If
you could come back as anyone, who would it be?” And she said “Louise
Nevelson.” Would you have the same answer? CHRISTOPHER: It’s the only thing you could count on! At least I know
my own story. If you could swap with somebody, would you? I don’t think
you have any choice but to come back as yourself. Q: I’m surprised by how different your choices are. You’re in
a comedy, then you’re in a drama, you’re in an action film with
Denzel, and then you did “The Stepford Wives,” and now you come
with this film, a sweet father/son/grandfather/great grandson story. Why did
this film appeal to you? CHRISTOPHER: I don’t play along with…I don’t get offered
particularly human people to play. This guy is basically just a guy, with normal
troubles. And plus, I play a father, I play a grandfather. I don’t think
I’ve ever done that before. So this was a good opportunity. Nice part,
big part. Q: So many actors you started out with are no longer working, yet you keep
going. What’s the reason? CHRISTOPHER: You’re right, people say to me are you intuitive, are you
instinctive, are you smart? I’m lucky. It’s better than being any
of those other things. Q: We just talked to Jordan Roberts, and he said you did a lot of inner
and outer work to make yourself look decrepit. I was wondering if you could
tell us a bit about what that was? CHRISTOPHER: I don’t know. I lost weight. I figured, you know, he’s
on death’s doorstep. So I did make an effort to be a little bit emaciated.
I look pretty awful in the movie, basically. And I’m supposed to. Q: Jordan’s a very renowned writer, but he’s a first time director.
You and Michael Caine are two of the great actors of your time. What did you
give to him to try to help him move along and tell the story that he wanted
to tell? CHRISTOPHER: We were out there in New Mexico, there wasn’t really a lot
going on. We were together all the time and mostly we just worked on it, rehearsing
on our day off, trying to figure things out. There were a lot of things, when
we started, that were not resolved. The big question was, why had I done that
to my son? It’s a very difficult thing- we talked about it, we talked
about it, we talked about it, and finally we decided that he did it because
he did a terrible thing, he just was in bad shape and he lost control. That’s
never happened to me, but people, they drive too fast, they hurt somebody, it’s
terrible to live with. Q: You have a reputation for never turning down a film. Is that true? CHRISTOPHER: Sure. Acting is my favorite thing to do, and I don’t have
a lot of other interests, so my inclination is to say yes, even when there’s
a lot of doubts. You sort of hope for the best, and try to figure it out as
you go along. With movies, there’s always an editor, that’s the
great thing. You can make a lot of mistakes. And if it’s really awful,
chances are they’ll cut it out. Rather than stay home and wait for the
part…a lot of actors do that and they do it very successfully. I’ve
had very good actors say to me, “you know, you really ought to be more
choosy.” Because I’ve made movies that I haven’t seen. But
I don’t regret that. I do a lot of stuff. Someone once said to me, you’re
an actor who throws a lot of stuff at the wall and sees what sticks. And I think
that that’s true. Q: A question about the chicken. How much chicken did you end up eating?
And I asked this same question to Jordan Roberts, are you worried that people
are going to look at this KFC prominently displayed… CHRISTOPHER: No, you’re right. KFC does get a lot of publicity, and for
a long time I couldn’t believe that they had nothing to do with it, you
would think that they would have kicked in some money for the production. It’s
an ad. But that’s not true. It was originally just the concept of this
Kentucky Fried Chicken world. Like I say, I was trying to lose weight, so I
faked a lot of the eating. When I was a kid I used to eat fast food. You know,
Mel Brooks said, “Every morning I get up and I throw the window open and
I pray my heart should not attack me.” (Laughs). And the other rule is
to never, ever, eat fried food. Q: The material said something about a location that was supposed to be
New York City, or the northeast, or even California, and eventually it moved
to the southwest, how did you feel about that? CHRISTOPHER: It was very good. When you make a movie, there’s always
a very big deal about parking the trucks. You’ve got the actor’s
dressing rooms, the makeup, the lights, and lots of trucks. And that’s
always a big deal. If you’re in a city, you’ve got to have permits,
you’ve got to have police blocking the street, social security. But out
there, there’s plenty of space to park. If I said, could I have my dressing
room right there, there’s no problem. Q: Had you worked extensively with kids before, and if not, how was the
experience of working with Jonah Bobo? CHRISTOPHER: I hadn’t worked with kids, and I don’t have kids,
but he and I really hit it off, he thought I was hilarious. Sometimes we had
to stop and calm him down because he’s quite wild. Q: Anything particularly memorable happen? CHRISTOPHER: Just lots. I’d say something, he’d be in stitches,
his mother would have to come calm him down. He’s a brilliant kid, very,
very smart kid. Q: You once said, “I used to be prettier than I am, but I think I
look better now, I was a pretty boy, particularly in my early movies, I don’t
like looking at them very much.” You look pretty hot now… CHRISTOPHER: I look ok, I try to take care of myself, and it’s true if
you see me in those earlier movies it’s a little bit like…it’s
a little like Grace Kelly (laughs). Q: Do you realize so many people have been in love with you from early on,
and you went through that sex idol period… CHRISTOPHER: I did for ten minutes. I think, following “Deer Hunter,”
that for a few minutes I was a leading man. I did pictures like “Dogs
of War” and so forth. But that didn’t last long. I think there’s
something eccentric about me- I’m not apt to be the guy who gets the girl. Q: Do you enjoy character actor work? CHRISTOPHER: I do what’s there. Q: Do you feel that not being a leading actor is giving you the opportunity
to stretch more? CHRISTOPHER: Not really. You have to do what you are, that was never an option
for me. I did a few things like that, but like I said, I don’t think I’m
ever going to be the guy who gets the girl, I’m not sure exactly why… Q: You’ve developed this wicked onscreen persona that’s caricatured
a lot. Do you find that funny, or are you annoyed by that? CHRISTOPHER: No, no, it’s great. Q: There’s a short I just saw at a festival where a character wants
to be you and only talks in lines from your movies. CHRISTOPHER: Yeah, I heard about that. And there’s a play at the Edinburgh
Festival recently, that I saw. Q: Who does a better impression of you, Jay Mohr or Kevin Spacey? CHRISTOPHER: My wife says Kevin Spacey’s the best one. Q: You once said what you are as an actor is a reflection of what you are
in real life, yet you’ve been married over twenty-five years- CHRISTOPHER: Thirty-five. Q: So part of you is so normal, but if your parts are a reflection of you,
I’d be scared to be sitting this close. CHRISTOPHER: No, I think it’s true, I have nothing to do with most of
the parts I play. I think that maybe it’s because I come from musical
theater. Part of me, as an actor, has always included the audience. Every time
I see myself in a movie I think, “That’s Chris, you know that that’s
Chris.” I can play these heinous people but there’s always an inclusion
of the audience. They know that I’m only pretending. Q: Speaking of musical theater, you just finished “Romance and Cigarettes,”
with John Turturro, and I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about
that. CHRISTOPHER: Yeah! Music and movies, that’s pretty rare. I just made
it, I haven’t seen it yet. I have a big song and dance number. It’s
got great actors in it, Susan Sarandon, James Gandolfini. Q: What about “The Wedding Crashers”? CHRISTOPHER: I guess that’ll be next summer. It’s Vince Vaughn,
and Owen Wilson, and it’s a comedy. Q: Do you think you’ll ever go back to the stage? CHRISTOPHER: Who knows? (Laughs). Q: Going back to “Around the Bend,” I love the scene where you’re
dancing all over the place, and I didn’t realize that you did come from
that musical theater background. Are we going to see something like that in
“Romance and Cigarettes”? CHRISTOPHER: It’s a dance number with a song. Actually, I do it to Tom
Jones’ song “Delilah.” Q: When you’re doing so many different films, what do you like the
best- comedy, drama, musical theater? And have you ever thought about directing? CHRISTOPHER: I don’t think I’d be a good director, I don’t
think I’d be good at articulating myself about what I wanted. I did have
a directing experience once, in the theater. And I discovered a lot about myself.
If somebody would ask me something, I’d say, “Do whatever you want.”
And that’s not a good way to be a director. Q: The night you won (the Academy Award) you went to bed with the Oscar
in your hand. Is your wife glad you didn’t win an award every year? CHRISTOPHER: That was a very important thing. It’s absolutely true. I
knew that that was going to make lots of differences in lots of ways, but it
also would make a financial difference. The house I live in was built by my
Oscar. Q: You don’t see yourself as the guy who gets the girl, what do you
see yourself as? CHRISTOPHER: When I started out as an actor, I tried to be all sorts of things;
people tell you, “that’s how you be an actor.” I used to do
research, I had a part once where I was supposed to be mentally unbalanced,
I went to hospitals and stuff like that. It was very interesting and sad, but
I don’t think it did me any good. I had a lot of information, I had a
lot of experience, but in terms of saying my lines and playing a scene, it didn’t
make any difference. So I stopped wasting my time in that sense, I realized
that the reference point I had about anything is my own. The whole idea of getting
into somebody else’s head- there are some people who can do that, but
not me. Q: The New York Times recently did an article stating that we no
longer have the great leading men, the great faces that we had in the seventies-
Dustin Hoffman, Al Pacino. Now we have pretty boys. Do you think that we’re
going through a cultural light period, or do you think we’re just not
as blessed as we used to be? CHRISTOPHER: I don’t think so. I think there are young actors out there
who are phenomenal. It always amazes me- how can somebody be that young and
that good? Certainly, it took me a long time to know what I was doing. I think
it’s just, you know, talent. Some people can just do it. I have this contractor
friend who says: “Acting is not very difficult, once you know how to do
it…” “Around the Bend” opens in select cities on October 8th.

