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Interview: "Mothman Prophecies" scribe Richard Hatem
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02/01/02 AT 2:30 A.M.
BY ETHAN AAMES
By Thomas Chau I recently was fortunate enough to send Richard Hatem, the screenwriter of
"The Mothman Prophecies," some questions regarding the movie, which
I found to be very interesting. I myself have always been a fan of the paranormal.
As I explained to Richard, I believe that even at this stage, humans don't have
things figured out completely. The human race is very early in the evolution
process, and there is much to be learned about ourselves and our world. Thus,
I have never been too quick to snap judgment on something that may seem incredibly
unbelievable. The cavemen, for example, thought they had things figured out.
And thus, the paranormal has, and always will, include things that humans will
simply never understand. Below are some questions regarding Mothman and the
movie that I asked Richard. I caution that the last two questions are spoiler-ish
if you haven't seen the movie. 1) How or why did you get involved with adapting John Keel's book? At the time that I found John Keel's book I had already been wrestling with
finding a way to tell a story about the supernatural. But I knew I didn't want
to write a "ghost story", where the ghost helps solve a mystery or
pin-point a murderer or find buried treasure. I wanted to tell a story about
how people really, truly experience the paranormal. What hooked me on the Mothman legend was that it had everything: UFOs, MIBs,
poltergeists, precognitive dreams, telepathic communication, EVP/ITC (electronic
voice phenomenon/instrumental transcommunication, i.e. electronic communication
with discarnate entities) and of course, Mothman. The entire story seemed to
suggest that these phenomenon are not as separate as we've always thought. UFOs
are ghosts are MIBs, etc. This theory makes sense to me. The universe just keep
throwing out its weird energy and that energy manifests and makes itself known
to different people in different ways based on natural laws we do not understand.
Am I skeptic? Sure. Am I a "debunker"? Not at all. Am I a believer?
I'd say I'm a hoper. In my original draft you saw a little more of the monster. I felt that as
long as we understood that every time we see it, we're seeing only a particular
character's point of view it was acceptable. For instance, during the bridge
collapse, when John Klein runs up to the guy in the car and tells him to get
off the bridge... In the original script, the guy looks up into the bridge towers
and sees a gigantic bird, like a pteradactyl. It's obscured by fog, but it's
really kind of there. When John looks up, he sees nothing. But meanwhile, the
guy is going nuts, "What the hell IS that thing?!" and John keeps
looking, getting more and more scared, because there's just nothing there. Then
the bird lifts up and flies right down at the guy--okay, so the GUY sees Mothman
flying at him--but John sees the metal cable dislodging and flying at him. The
result is the same, the guy is killed. Because of the Will Smith/Tommy Lee Jones movie, MIBs were out of the question
from the start. There was so much in Keel's book, you couldn't include it all,
so that seemed the best place to start cutting. In the original script, there
were UFO encounters, but the producers at Lakeshore--rightly, I believe--felt
we had already seen UFOs done to death in movies and wanted to distinguish this
story as something truly different. The phenomenon is what I took from the book. I do not believe there are any
one-to-one relationships in the movie to exact events. Mostly it was, "Okay,
someone's getting weird calls, someone's seeing Mothman..." etc. The dream
of the Christmas presents in the water really happened. People getting calls
from John Keel that he never placed is real. Indrid Cold is real; a guy really
did meet him on the road... So the kind of paranormal phenomenon in the movie
is all "real". The stuff that was made up was the story: the happy
marriage, the wife dying, Klein's grief, the stuff with the Governor, the relationship
with Connie (Laura Linney). I basically invented the character-context around
which the phenomenon takes place. (SPOILER WARNING: PLEASE STOP HERE IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE MOVIE.) Lakeshore was concerned that 46 was just way too many people to die; audiences
would be too depressed. At one point it was suggested that John Klein saves
EVERYONE, and that even though the bridge does collapse, he manages to get everyone
off just in the nick of time. Eventually the idea was dropped. Somehow the number
became 36. Exactly how, I'm not sure. 8) At the end, when Connie cheats death, was that your way of saying that
the future is never concrete, and can be defied? I do believe the future is not concrete, but is rather composed of several
likely paths of varying degrees of probability. For instance, let's say that
when any given plane takes off it has a 96% probability of landing safely, a
3% chance of encountering trouble and landing with a few people injured, and
a 1% chance of crashing. Certain things happen during the flight to nudge the
actual future into one of those 100 possible slots.
After a lifetime of interest in these subjects, what I had found is that people
who live in haunted houses, or see UFOs, or have precognitive dreams rarely
feel any sense of closure or "greater understanding of our universe."
They simply feel confused. There's a book called "Phone Calls From The
Dead" by Raymond Bayless and D. Scott Rogo, and it examines this strange
phenomenon. What is fascinating is that while some people (typically somewhat
religious or spiritual to begin with) are comforted by these seeming confirmations
of an afterlife, most people, though they think they've spoken to a dead relative
on the phone, come away with no great change in their pre-existing beliefs.
So all this stuff was swirling around in my head. I wanted to tell a story about
a man who encounters some sort of paranormal phenomenon, investigates it rationally
in every possible way, and in the end knows nothing more than he did when he
started.
About a month later I found Keel's book.
It had everything I wanted and more. Because his book, and his experience, said
even more: the harder you look for answers in these areas, the more dangerous
ground you tread--and it can lead to big problems, insanity not the least among
them.
I read the book in March of 1997. I immediately got in touch with John Keel
himself and personally optioned the book with my own money. I then wrote a spec
script and my agent sent it out in January of 1998. In February of 1998 it sold
to Lakeshore Entertainment.
2) What is it about the Mothman legend that fascinates you?
The story was also true and I like the idea that I could get people to pay more
attention to my theme by nudging them on the shoulder and saying, "Hey
man, this shit really happened!"
I knew that the kind of story I wanted to tell, where questions are left unanswered,
was going to be a tough sell. What was great about Keel's book is that it does
have a very definitive ending--the bridge disaster--but it's still enigmatic.
Dramatically, it had everything. Big city man in a small town (fish out of water--in
more ways than one), a structure that allowed for romance (this was purely invented),
an on-going, far-reaching mystery with life-or-death stakes... It was perfect.
I should probably clear something up which has been somewhat misunderstood until
now. I didn't write the movie to popularize the legend of Mothman. I'm no more
intrigued with Mothman than I am with Bigfoot or UFOs. Again, it's that Keel's
book provided a structure and platform upon which I could discuss ideas, theories
and themes about the paranormal in general, and about the natural human craving
for answers where there are none.
3) Are you a skeptic? If so, what's your own explanation for the eyewitness
accounts? If you're not a skeptic, what do you think the Mothman is?
I think people do see strange things. And I think there are a lot of mysteries
on our planet that will never be explained. I don't think we'll ever catch a
Bigfoot. I hope not, because for me the mystery and that margin for weirdness
must always hold. I want the circumstantial evidence to be disturbing, almost
overwhelming, but never go all the way. I'm all for the paranormal cock-tease.
Keel has very interesting theories about what Mothman might be. It ties into
his theory of the "ultra-terrestrials." Basically, it's what the Alan
Bates character talks about in the movie. Energy forms that burst in and out
of our dimension. (This "energy flash" is represented in the movie
by the burn marks on the car and the tree, and the swollen red eyes people get
after seeing things). The people who experience them see them in different ways.
It's as if our brain is seeing something it's never seen, so it flips through
it's card file looking for a match, and it comes up with, "Well, it's sort
of a bird, sort of a man, and those red things might be eyes..." And we
get this weird composite. Where do you think mythological creatures came from?
The Griffin, the Sphinx, the Centaur? Probably just people like those in Point
Pleasant, trying to use humans brains to understand and translate non-human
manifestations.
4) We only see the Mothman in its physical form once in the movie, and it's
a one second glimpse. The rest of the movie seems to be more so about the psychological
impact that the sightings had on the characters and the town, rather than a
monster horror movie. Why did you choose to that route?
Mark Pellington made the decision to keep the Mothman element even more theoretical
than that, and I think it was a great choice. He focused on the mystery. Smart
move.
5) A lot of the eyewitness accounts from Point Pleasant included bizarre
descriptions of UFOs and men in black. Why did you choose not to mention them?
6) For those of us who have not read the book, what events in the movie were
based on true events, and which ones were made up from your imagination?
7) History shows that 46 people died at the collapse of the Silver Bridge.
Why was the number changed to 36?
When John saves Connie ("Wake up number 37") we can believe one of
two things--that John has cheated pre-destination and has somehow outwitted
the forces of fate (Mothman, Indrid Cold). Or we can believe that this was the
future he has been chosen to fulfill, going back as far as his car accident
with his wife two years earlier. Mothman made himself known to John in order
that two years later he'd be drawn to Point Pleasant and would experience events
exactly as he does in the movie that ultimately lead him to save Connie. Could
be either. Both work. Choose your favorite.
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